Interactions with another’s body: Mays excerpt #12

The Mays write: Some NDErs report interacting with another person’s physical body during their NDE. These interactions take two different forms. “Sensing” the neural electrical activity in the other person’s body is one form. For example, Raymond Moody personally resuscitated a woman:

“I saw her have a cardiac arrest and immediately started heart massage. She told me later that while I was working on restarting her heart, she was going up above her body and looking down. She was standing behind me, trying to tell me to stop, that she was fine where she was. When I didn’t hear her, she tried to grab my arm to keep me from inserting a needle in her arm for injecting intravenous fluid. Her hand passed right through my arm. But when she did that, she later claimed that she felt something that was the consistency of ‘very rarified gelatin’ that seemed to have an electric current running through it. I have heard similar descriptions from other patients.”

Moody is the author of Life after life in which he coined the term near-death experiences. This particular case indicates that as his patient passed her nonmaterial hand through Moody’s physical arm, she perceived a subtle resistance as a “very rarified gelatin” consistency. She also perceived a kind of electric current running through his arm, suggesting that she sensed the neural activity in his arm muscles as he moved to insert the IV needle. Moody has heard other similar cases.

“Triggering” neural electrical activity in the other person is a second form. One example comes from 7-year-old NDEr Jerry Casebolt whom we mentioned earlier. He reported that while out-of-body, a German shepherd sensed his presence in a playground outside the hospital. The dog playfully jumped up and barked at him until the Light Being accompanying Jerry told him to stop his “childish” diversion. Back in the hospital, Jerry observed a frail lady in a bed near the nurses’ station. The old lady probably had dementia and would periodically yell out that she hurt, that she was too cold or too hot. The other patients in the area were startled when she yelled out unexpectedly and were agitated. Jerry (called ‘Gary’ in the narrative) felt obligated to do something to “fix the problem.”

“He floated over to her bed. He tried tickling her nose with his finger. Surprisingly, after a few attempts, Gary appeared to be successful. To her, it may have felt like a feather or a chilly breeze, but to Gary it was a finger. Reflexively, it made her sneeze. As long as she was sneezing, she wasn’t hollering.”

In a personal communication, Jerry told us that he repeated two more times tickling the lady’s nose until she sneezed.

“Gary was amused with himself and the [other] patients welcomed the change, at least at some level. Several of them sighed with temporary relief from the noise. ... The Light Being did not approve of Gary’s ‘childish’ antics any more than the incident with the dog. It turned Gary away from the old lady and sternly transmitted ‘That is enough’.”

These two types of interactions between the NDEr’s nonmaterial “body” with another person’s physical body are evidence of interaction specifically with neural structures, inducing both phenomenal sensations in the NDEr and neural activations in the other person. Both of these types of cases support the idea that the mind can interact specifically with neural structures in the brain.

 

Robert G. Mays, BSc and Suzanne B. Mays, AA,  “There is no death: Near-death experience evidence for survival after permanent bodily death.” An essay written for the 2021 Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies addressing the question: “What Is The Best Available Evidence For The Survival Of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death?” Footnotes are omitted from these excerpts but are in the full text available from the Bigelow website at https://bigelowinstitute.org/contest_winners3.php.

NDEs together: Mays excerpt #11

The Mays write: In cases of multiple simultaneous NDEs, two or more people have an NDE at the same time. The NDErs see each other out-of-body and can converse with one another.

Includes Hotshot Case

One case of multiple NDEs happened to an elite 20-person fire-fighting group called Hotshot who were battling a wilderness fire on a steep slope at the top of a mountain in 1989. The group was caught by shifting winds, and they were quickly engulfed in an inferno of flames.

“One by one the men and women fell to the earth suffocating from lack of oxygen. They were reduced to crawling on their hands and knees while they attempted to get back up the hill to a safer area. ... Jake [(John Hernandez), the crew boss,] found himself looking down on his body which was lying in a trench. ... Jake felt completely at peace. As he looked around Jake saw other fire-fighters standing above their bodies in the air. One of Jake’s crew members had a defective foot which he had been born with. As he came out of his body Jake looked at him and said: ‘Look, Jose, your foot is straight.’ ... All of the crew escaped and the only visual evidence on them of what they had been through was a few singed hairs. Jake said that in comparing accounts of their different episodes the men and women were astonished that they had each undergone some type of near-death experience.”

Another case of multiple simultaneous NDEs is described by May Eulitt from Oklahoma. In the late afternoon, May and her two close friends, James and Rashad, were chopping corn stalks for fodder. A rainstorm started, and the three hurried to finish the last wagon load. When they reached the metal gate, James opened the gate, and May leaned over from the wagon to pull him up but slipped. In the wagon, Rashad grabbed May’s other arm just as a bolt of lightning struck the gate.

“[I]t exploded around us with a such an incredible brightness that it felt as if we were being sucked directly into the sun. The next thing we knew, all of that was gone, and we were all in a large room or hall made of dark stone. ... I just felt peaceful, floating along there in the gloom with my two friends in the great, dark hall. The stately walls of this place loomed above us ... I remember thinking that it would have suited King Arthur. It was at that point that I realized that the three of us were united in thought and body. We were holding hands just as we had been when the lightning struck, but our minds were connected as well. Images of Arthur came to me from James and Rashad and I could see the same images that they were seeing.”

In both of these cases of simultaneous NDEs, the NDErs could see and interact with one another. During the NDE, Jake saw Jose’s foot and remarked to him that his defective foot was now straight. May, James, and Rashad saw each other and could experience what each of the others was experiencing. Each NDEr’s out-of-body “body” was objectively visible to the other NDErs.

What do these cases mean? The NDEr’s nonmaterial “body” was seen by another person or animal—by Olga Gearhardt’s son-in-law and by the dying woman’s estranged son. The German shepherd saw and barked at Jerry Casebolt as he playfully taunted him. The 20-person Hotshot team saw each other during their simultaneous NDEs. May Eulitt and her two friends saw and communicated with each other during their experiences together in another realm.

In each of these cases, the NDEr’s out-of-body mind was objectively present to others. In the apparitional NDEs, the NDEr appeared to the other person with a normal physical body.

The NDErs’ vivid subjective experiences while out-of-body coupled with the corresponding objective corroboration of their out-of-body “body” by others demonstrate that the NDEr mind entity is a real thing, a real being. The separate mind entity really exists.

Robert G. Mays, BSc and Suzanne B. Mays, AA,  “There is no death: Near-death experience evidence for survival after permanent bodily death.” An essay written for the 2021 Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies addressing the question: “What Is The Best Available Evidence For The Survival Of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death?” Footnotes are omitted from these excerpts but are in the full text available from the Bigelow website at https://bigelowinstitute.org/contest_winners3.php.

Is the mind objectively real? Mays excerpt #10

The Mays write: We can take a subjective phenomenon to be objectively real if it can be observed by others. There are several lines of evidence from NDEs that the nonmaterial mind is objectively real.

The NDEr’s out-of-body “body” can evidently be seen by animals. Jerry Casebolt experienced an NDE at age seven. He died during surgery, left his body, and was met by a “Light Being.” Toward the end of his NDE, he floated over a school playground located just north of the hospital. There were lots of children playing outside there. Jerry recounts his NDE in the third person, as a boy named Gary Caldwell:

“A German Shepherd dog was playing with the children. Gary [i.e., Jerry] floated down to investigate. The dog sensed his presence and playfully barked at him. ... Gary floated down and positioned himself just a few inches above where the dog could jump. He teased the animal by staying just out of reach. The dog barked and jumped up at Gary. As the dog became more excited, the children took notice. One small girl began to cry. ... The dog continued to wag his tail excitedly, barking and jumping crazily up at Gary. Gary laughed. He was having a good time like any seven-year-old kid should. The Light Being did not share in the humor of the moment. It stopped this ‘childish’ diversion and hauled Gary back to the top of the hospital roof as it transmitted, ‘You are causing the other children to be frightened’.”

In a personal communication, Jerry told us that he and the dog “looked into each other’s eyes; I was moving up, down and to the sides; we moved together like a dance.”

The NDEr can be seen by other people. An “apparitional” NDE is a particular event in an NDE in which the out-of-body NDEr visits and communicates in some way with a living person, and both accounts of the encounter are subsequently verified to be consistent with one another.

Annie Dirven

Titus Rivas, Annie Dirven, and R. H. Smit report in The Self Does Not Die the following case. In 1989, Olga Gearhardt underwent heart transplant surgery. All of her family came to the hospital to await the outcome, except her son-in-law who could not be at the hospital. The heart transplant was successful, but at 2:15 a.m., her new heart stopped beating, and it took 4 hours to resuscitate her heart and then longer still for her to recover consciousness. The son-in-law, who was sleeping at home, awoke at exactly 2:15 a.m., and Olga was standing at his bedside. Thinking that the surgery had been postponed, he asked her how she was. She replied, “I am fine. I’m going to be all right. There’s nothing for any of you to worry about.” She asked him to tell her daughter (his wife) and then she disappeared. The son-in-law wrote down the time and exactly what was said, and he went back to sleep. When Olga regained consciousness, her first words were, “Did you get the message?” Olga later reported that she had left her body and had tried but was unable to communicate with the family members who were all asleep in the hospital waiting room, so she went to the son-in-law, with whom she succeeded in communicating. NDE researchers Melvin Morse and Paul Perry thoroughly verified these details, including the note the son-in-law had scribbled.

In apparitional NDEs, the in-body person typically perceives the NDEr as physically present. Olga’s son-in-law thought that Olga was physically present in his bedroom; he assumed the surgery had been postponed.

Critical care physician Laurin Bellg related the encounter of a woman dying of cancer with her son during her NDE. She was dying of cancer in the hospital but refused to have her son visit. The son had been estranged from his family for 25 years. He had done some things that had hurt his parents financially and had served prison time for the theft that had destroyed their financial lives. Nonetheless, the son wanted to come visit his mother on her deathbed and she said, “No. I don’t want to see you.” The son is sitting in a bar near the hospital, experiencing deep sorrow, deep regret, deep remorse, wanting to connect with his mom before she crosses over. He’s crying. “He looks up and he sees his mother coming into the bar, and he’s so shocked and so elated. He’s excited, and he can’t understand it because she’s so sick. What is she doing there? And he gets up to go greet her. ... [But] there are people that obscure the view, and when they pass, she’s no longer there. His mother wakes up and says [to her daughter], ‘I had the strangest dream. I dreamed that I was in a bar and I saw my son sitting at a table crying, and he got up to start coming to me. And I got scared and I woke up.’”

Laurin Bellg explained, “I was there the next day to hear it. What we do know is that the afternoon that it happened, the lady woke up and told her daughter and then the son that evening told his sister. She’s the one who was able to put together that this had happened around the same time. She’s told me because she was just so amazed that had happened. ... The thing that’s so mysterious to me is for her to explain that she started walking toward her son, saw him crying, he got up and for him to say he saw his mom, got up, and started to go to her. That’s pretty astonishing.”

Bellg continued, “It looked like she was physically there. It never occurred to him that this would be an apparition or a projection of some kind.”

Robert G. Mays, BSc and Suzanne B. Mays, AA,  “There is no death: Near-death experience evidence for survival after permanent bodily death.” An essay written for the 2021 Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies addressing the question: “What Is The Best Available Evidence For The Survival Of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death?” Footnotes are omitted from these excerpts but are in the full text available from the Bigelow website at https://bigelowinstitute.org/contest_winners3.php.

Mind as essence of a person: Mays excerpt #9

The Mays write: During an NDE, the NDEr’s sense of “self” derives from various aspects of the experience: 

They know they exist with all of their cognitive faculties, without the physical body.

They know they are the same person who lives in or out of the physical body.

They know they are the agent of their actions, feelings, and thoughts. They can choose and their intentions are immediately fulfilled.

NDErs experience that their entire being separates from the physical body and then returns to the body. During their experience, they view their physical body as separate from themselves—like an empty shell, and yet their identity—their mind or self-awareness—continues intact before, during, and after the NDE. Thus, NDErs experience their mind as the essence of their being, independent of the physical body. “That physical body wasn’t me at all!”

Summarizing the evidence that the mind is a separate entity:

NDErs experience that their entire being separates from the physical body. All aspects of their mind act as a cohesive unit and are consciously present to them throughout their NDE—their senses, thoughts, feelings, intentions, and memories.

Throughout the NDEr’s separation of their mind from the body and its return to the body, their mind is continuously self-aware. This continuity of the mind is particularly clear in cases of repeated transitions in and out of the body.

The stark contrast between the “out-of-body mind” in an NDE and the “in-body mind” includes a sense of freedom from physical constraints, the loss of physical pain and disabilities, feelings of weightlessness, sharpness of perceptions, clarity of thought, and instantaneous response to volition. There are enhanced capabilities of perception and memory formation and the view that their physical body is not their real self. During some infant and early childhood NDEs, NDErs later report their out- of-body experience was from an adult perspective. The contrast with the out-of-body mind becomes clearer with the return to the body: the NDEr feels squeezed painfully back into the physical body, with the return of heaviness, fatigue, pain, and disabilities, as well as dulled thinking, perception, and volition.

NDErs experience their mind as the essence of their being, independent of the physical body. They are the same person when out-of-body as within their physical body.

Thus, the experiences of NDErs strongly suggest that a person’s mind is a separate entity that is independent of the physical body.

Nonetheless, skeptics can object that all of this evidence is from the NDErs’ subjective experiences. We can’t see the NDEr’s out-of-body mind and the mind appears to be nonmaterial—it easily passes through solid objects, like ceilings and walls. So, is the subjective experience of the nonmaterial mind objectively real? Is there objective evidence of the existence of the nonmaterial mind entity?

Robert G. Mays, BSc and Suzanne B. Mays, AA,  “There is no death: Near-death experience evidence for survival after permanent bodily death.” An essay written for the 2021 Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies addressing the question: “What Is The Best Available Evidence For The Survival Of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death?” Footnotes are omitted from these excerpts but are in the full text available from the Bigelow website at https://bigelowinstitute.org/contest_winners3.php.

Adult minds and body reactions: Mays excerpts #8

The Mays write: A surprising number of people who had their NDEs during infancy or early childhood report that they were “adults” during their NDEs. Most people reporting an NDE or NDE-like experience from this early age describe the experience from an adult perspective, similar to having an adult mind in a child’s body. 

P.M.H. Atwater

For example, NDE investigator P.M.H. Atwater quotes from the case of Vicky:

“I remember being able to leave my body, fly around the room, and being pulled back into my body. ... [My dad would] tickle me under my chin. It made me laugh so hard I would fly up through the top of my head and out of my body. From the ceiling I’d look back at my little body on the couch. ... I could see my mom in the kitchen ironing something on the ironing board. I could see the whole house while soaring around. ... While I was out I wanted to stay out, but something always pulled me back. It was as if there were two parts of me. One aspect was me as the baby. And the other aspect was me with an adult mind. While I was out of my body I was me—but older, wiser, much more knowledgeable. When I returned to my baby body, it was as if I forgot that other aspect of myself.”

NDE-like experiences such as Vicky’s can occur even when the person is not near death but score on the NDE Scale as valid NDEs. In Vicky’s case, she described being out-of-body, having perceptions out of the line of physical sight, and being forced to return to her body. Most significantly, she described her out-of-body mind as being a fully mature, adult mind that was an older, wiser, and more knowledgeable version of herself. These qualities were lost when returning to her body. Vicky’s in-and-out experience is reminiscent of Joe McMoneagle’s yo-yo-like experience.

When NDErs report seeing their own physical body, they view it differently: Their body is not part of who they are. They typically view their body with disinterest, disdain, or even disgust. Their physical body generally appears as an empty shell, like an old, discarded coat. For Mary Neal, her body “looked like the shell of a comfortable old friend.”

And when NDErs experience their return to the physical body, the contrast between their expanded out-of- body mind and the coarse physical body becomes even more obvious. Their expanded mind needs to be squeezed back into the body. Consider NDEr Erica McKenzie’s experience as her out-of-body mind rejoined her physical body:

“It was my body but I also knew the real me was not attached to that body. I honestly didn’t think I could shove myself back into what had once felt so familiar, but now I identified as foreign. I knew reintegrating was going to be overwhelming and painful. That body wasn’t me! ... It was too confining and claustrophobic to even consider trying to stuff myself inside it. There must be another solution, but I couldn’t think of one. ... In a split second, I was shoved back into my limp body like a hand in a glove, only the glove was too small. Each part of my spiritual body squeezed its way into my physical counterpart. I could feel my spiritual big toe fit back into the spot of my physical big toe along with each one of my fingers, my hands, feet, arms and legs. My body felt heavy and confined as if I’d been zipped inside a jacket two sizes too small. All the feelings attached to my sick and exhausted body assaulted my spiritual one. My chest hurt along with the rest of me. This was an enormous let down from the light-filled vastness of Spirit I had just experienced. It wasn’t me at all! I had lived as a multidimensional being, basking in the love of God’s presence only to be forced back into the stark reality of a 3-dimensional body. How could I possibly go back to that?”

When NDErs experience being reunited with the physical body, pain returns. Each time Joe McMoneagle was reunited with his body, he felt tremendous pain, but he felt no pain while out-of-body. Any prior physical disabilities also return.

On return to the body, the NDEr typically feels heaviness, fatigue, and physical sluggishness. Compared to experiences during an NDE, the physical body evidently dampens and dulls thinking and perceptions and constrains movement. Erica McKenzie’s body felt heavy and confined, and her pain returned when her “spiritual body” was shoved back into and reintegrated with her “3-dimensional body.” The NDEr experiences their consciousness—their mind—coming back to the limitations of their physical body.

 

Robert G. Mays, BSc and Suzanne B. Mays, AA,  “There is no death: Near-death experience evidence for survival after permanent bodily death.” An essay written for the 2021 Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies addressing the question: “What Is The Best Available Evidence For The Survival Of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death?” Footnotes are omitted from these excerpts but are in the full text available from the Bigelow website at https://bigelowinstitute.org/contest_winners3.php.

Character of consciousness: Mays excerpt #7

The Mays write: It is important to note that the transitions in and out of the body were triggered by repeated external events. Joe McMoneagle was repeatedly catapulted back to his body each time his friend violently struck him in the center of his chest. Mary Neal was drawn back to her body by the compassion she felt for her friends when they repeatedly pleaded with her to take a breath.

We can infer that the momentary resumption of the heartbeat can compel the NDEr back to their body. Joe McMoneagle briefly reunited with his body when he was struck in the chest. Laurin Bellg’s patient Howard “got jerked back to [his] body with a jolt” on the first defibrillation shock and then floated up again. Other NDErs appear to be drawn to return to the body out of the ties of love and compassion for others—Mary Neal for her kayaking friends and Tony Meo (Section 2D) for his wife and his family.

Throughout these cases, the NDEr experiences a continuity of consciousness, but their perspective changes from out-of-body to in-body. The body momentarily starts to function again: Joe was briefly looking up through his physical eyes and Mary was able to lay down in her body, take a breath, and then resume her heavenly journey.

Throughout the NDEr’s experience of the separation of their mind from the body and its return to the body, the mind holds a continuity of wakeful self-awareness. The unity of the mind is demonstrated most clearly in these cases of repeated transitions in and out of the body. Because there is a seamless transition of consciousness in leaving the body and then returning, it is evident that mediation by the brain does not alter the identity or unity of the mind.

There is a stark contrast between one’s experience of the “out-of-body mind” in an NDE and the “in-body mind” in ordinary consciousness. In the out-of-body state, NDErs feel no bodily pain, even when painful medical procedures are being performed on their physical body. Prior physical defects or disabilities such as blindness, deafness, lameness, or missing limbs are absent in most NDErs. NDErs who are blind or visually impaired, including those blind from birth, reported being able to see while out-of-body during their NDEs, and in some cases their perceptions were independently corroborated.

In the NDEr’s experience, the mind appears to operate as if it has been freed from the normal constraints of the physical body, with loss of pain and disabilities, feelings of weightlessness, sharpness of perceptions, clarity of thought, and instantaneous response to volition, as with NDEr Tony Meo traveling 1,250 miles back to this home.

When out-of-body, NDErs also experience enhanced visual perceptions, enhanced memory formation, and a heightened sense of reality:

During the out-of-body state, vision appears to be a special form of perception. NDErs report a kind of “wraparound” vision involving simultaneous 360° vision on all sides of an object, through it, and within it, or “vision from everywhere.” NDE researcher Jean-Pierre Jourdan cited the account of French NDEr JM:

“I was surprised that I could see at a 360° angle: I could see in front and behind me, I could see underneath, I could see far away, I could see up close and also transparently. I remember seeing a stick of lipstick in one of the nurses’ pockets. If I wanted to see inside the lamp which illuminated the room, I’d manage to do so, and all of this instantly, as soon as I wanted to. ... I could see, all at once, a green plaque with white letters saying, ‘Manufacture de Saint Etienne [a city in France].’ The plaque was under the edge of the operating table, covered up by the drape I was lying on. I could see with multiple axes of vision, from many places at once. This is the reason why I saw this plaque under the operating table, from a completely different angle, since I was up there by the ceiling and I still managed to see this plaque located under the table, itself covered by a sheet. When I wanted to check this, the surgeon and I realized the plaque was actually there and read ‘Manufacture d’armes de Saint Etienne’.”

Jourdan proposed that the unusual qualities of visual perception in NDEs suggest that the NDEr perceives the physical world “from a point located in an additional dimension—and therefore external to normal human space-time. ... [A] distinctive five-dimensional spatiotemporal perspective seems to be the case in NDEs.”

NDErs’ memory of the events of their NDEs are very vivid and are indelible upon returning to the body. Their accounts don’t fade and are not embellished over time, even after decades (18). Three separate studies of NDEr memories showed that NDErs remember being actively involved in the events and actually perceiving the phenomena. When recalling their NDE, the NDEr “relives” the experience. The memories formed of the NDE are more vivid—more real—than memories of real events.

Finally, the general consensus among NDErs is that their experiences while out-of-body are much more real than experiences of ordinary reality:

“A man who rolled his car over at the age of 21 said, ‘I have no doubt that this experience was real. It was vastly more real than anything we experience here.’ A woman who attempted suicide at the age of 31 said, ‘This was more real than anything on Earth. By comparison, my life in my body had been a dream.’ And a woman who, at the age of 25, bled out during a surgical procedure when the surgeon accidentally cut an artery, noted: ‘What happens during an NDE happens in the realm of truth, in the true reality, and what happens here on Earth is just a dream’.”

These enhanced capabilities evidently occur when the NDEr’s out-of-body mind is not constrained by brain function. The enhanced vision—seeing accurately from all directions at once and seeing through objects—is certainly not possible with physical vision. In the referenced studies, the characteristics of the memories formed in NDEs were found to be amplified compared to memories formed in ordinary consciousness of real events, which suggests that the NDE memory formation was not tied to brain function. 

 

Robert G. Mays, BSc and Suzanne B. Mays, AA,  “There is no death: Near-death experience evidence for survival after permanent bodily death.” An essay written for the 2021 Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies addressing the question: “What Is The Best Available Evidence For The Survival Of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death?” Footnotes are omitted from these excerpts but are in the full text available from the Bigelow website at https://bigelowinstitute.org/contest_winners3.php.

Consciousness outside the body: Mays excerpt #6

The Mays write: Numerous aspects of an NDE show how the mind functions independent of the physical body.

The mind appears to be a cohesive unit during an NDE. NDErs’ reports indicate that all of their normal cognitive faculties are active during the NDE. NDEr perceptions include all normal sense faculties: sight, hearing, and less frequently, touch, smell, and taste. Perceptions of physical objects and events are accurate. NDErs are fully self-aware and retain all of their prior knowledge. Their thoughts are clear and reasoned (e.g., Howard wondered whether maybe he should “go somewhere”. NDErs exhibit the normal range of feelings (e.g., peace, love, joy, wonder, bewilderment, fear, frustration, irritation). Their intentions are immediately fulfilled (e.g., Tony Meo “just wanted to go home” and suddenly he was back in Florida. During their NDE, NDErs nearly always recall existing memories of prior life events; and during their NDE, new vivid memories of their NDE are formed. The NDEr’s self separates and reunites with the physical body as a unit.

The NDEr experiences that their entire being has separated from the physical body and that all aspects of their mind or self are still consciously present to them throughout their NDE—their senses, thoughts, feelings, intentions, and memories. The NDEr’s self-conscious awareness remains intact while out-of-body. NDErs feel themselves to be the same persons throughout the experience. The continuity of self-conscious awareness is demonstrated in cases in which the NDEr shifts from out-of-body to in-body repeatedly, like a yo-yo. Here are two cases:

NDEr Joe McMoneagle reported that during his NDE from convulsions, he was out of his body observing his friend trying to revive him. Finding no pulse, his friend struck him in the chest periodically—not as in CPR, which was not widely practiced at the time, in 1970.

“Not finding [a pulse, my friend] began to violently strike me in the chest, cursing me to breathe with each punch. The interesting thing I experienced through all of this was that every time he struck me in the center of the chest, I would feel a click and find myself looking up through my physical eyes into his. This would immediately be followed by another distinct click, and once more I would be out of my body and looking down at him from above. After 10 minutes of this, I was beginning to feel like a yo-yo. Click—pain, click—no pain, click—pain, click—no pain, click ... and so forth and so on. As he continued striking me in the chest, I began screaming at him with my mind while in the out-of-body state to stop this nonsense, can’t you see I’m dead, leave me alone! Until eventually he did stop and I remained outside of my body.”

Orthopedist Mary Neal drowned in a river during a kayaking trip. Her body was severely injured as the force of the water ripped her out of the kayak. Her kayaking friends retrieved her body—after 30 minutes under water—and started CPR. In her NDE, she rose out of her body and was greeted by deceased relatives and other spiritual companions. As she proceeded on a path to heaven, she could look down on her kayaking friends trying to resuscitate her body on the riverbank.

“My body looked like the shell of a comfortable old friend, and I felt warm compassion and gratitude for its use. ... I heard [my friends] call to me and beg me to take a breath. I loved them and did not want them to be sad, so I asked my heavenly companions to wait while I returned to my body, lay down, and took a breath. Thinking that this would be satisfactory, I then left my body and resumed my journey home.” [Her kayaking friends kept beckoning to her to come back and take a breath.] “Each time ... I felt compelled to return to my body and take another breath before returning on my journey. This became tiresome and I grew quite irritated with their repeated calling. ... Before we could go inside [the hall, my spiritual companions] ... turned to me and explained that it was not my time to enter the hall; I had not completed my journey on earth, had more work to do, and must return to my body. ... [T]hey returned me to the river bank. I sat down in my body and gave these heavenly beings, these people who had come to guide, protect, and cheer for me, one last, longing glance before I lay down and was reunited with my body. I became aware of my body and opened my eyes to see the faces of [my friends] looking down at me.”

Robert G. Mays, BSc and Suzanne B. Mays, AA,  “There is no death: Near-death experience evidence for survival after permanent bodily death.” An essay written for the 2021 Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies addressing the question: “What Is The Best Available Evidence For The Survival Of Human Consciousness After Permanent Bodily Death?” Footnotes are omitted from these excerpts but are in the full text available from the Bigelow website at https://bigelowinstitute.org/contest_winners3.php.